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Dear All


Please see the mail received from SVP Nationa Police Academy

They are looking for Ex-Servicemen who have worked in Band in Armed Forces.

Please spread the message and ask anyone interested to contact me

Thanks and Best Regards

Sainik Welfare

ZSWOs:  Please give wide publicity
Place it on your notice boards

Sardar Vallbhbhai Patel National Police Academy (SVPNPA) is a premier Police Training institution in the Country. It trains officers of the Indian Police Service at the induction level and conducts various in-service courses for serving IPS officers. It also organizes courses for other Services and conducts seminars/workshops on relevant and contemporary issues. 

SVPNPA has a BAND PARTY with all the instruments.   The Band Party is used during various formal occassions, mess functions, Passing Out parade and other events.

We have certain vacancies in the Band Party.   We are planning to take retired Army personnel/Central Para military forces personnel having work experience in Band  on a   temporary/Contract basis.

I request you to please inform  whether retired Army personnel having work experience in Army band will be available or not. You are also requested to intimate the various formalities, terms and conditions for taking the retired Army Band personnel.

Awaiting an early response, 



(Source- Via E-mail)

‘OROP – the long and short of it’ By Lt Gen Prakash Katoch Vet

Amongst all the hullabaloo about Finance Minister Arun Jaitley’s statement ruling out annual revision of pensions, his snide remark that Jawans were getting less pension that officers did not draw much attention hinted at the equation being wonky. That his latter statement was pointedly intentional, mischievous and part of the delay tactics in announcing OROP needs little imagination, and would have perhaps amused the Chinese.
The public is largely unaware that officers are just 1% of those affected by non-implementation of OROP besides the military pensions were drastically reduced from 70% of pay to 30% in 1973. Commission into armed forces is given by the President of India and commissioned rank structures are well explained in the Koshiyari Committee report.
Is Jaitle’y next recommendation going to be that Jawans should be getting equal pay as officers? Will he, who begged around for votes as Janta ka Sewak at the time of elections, accept the pay of say a peon, don’t mind he lost elections miserably to a military veteran that reportedly keeps his tail perpetually afire.
Now let us take this business of why annual revision of pension cannot be done. Born in 1952, he is probably unaware that a Jawan who retired in say 1950 had his pension automatically revised every year without waiting for a pay commission. Pre-1973, this was in vogue for 26 years, since 1947. Plain and simple, the OROP was being given to the military prior to 1973 but then the bureaucracy struck in not only stopping OROP for the military but brought the military pensions down from 70% of basic pay to 30% through the 3rd Central Pay Commission (CPC).
At the same time an organization like Railways whose manpower is as large large as the India Army continued to get the benefit of OROP perhaps because the Railway Board that manages Railways does not have any bureaucrats posted. The Koshiyari Committee specifically lambasted the MoD and Finance that when for 26 years the OROP with automatic annual revision of pension was in vogue, why was it discontinued without justification and more significantly no justification could be provided to the Koshiyari Committee.
So then what is the problem of undertaking annual revision of pensions? Surely it cannot be the calculations part and if that be so perhaps Jaitley could send his babus to see what software banks are using to calculate interest and taxes on daily basis. Is there a problem of money even though the annual sum being talked about is Rs 8,300 crores? Would India ever have dearth of money if it was not mis-utilized? Mihir S Sharma writes in his book ‘Restart’ that in the period 2007-2013 government banks accumulated bad debts amounting to Rs 5,00,000,00,00,000 which were written off by the Finance Ministry. More significantly, RBI revealed that ’95 per cent ‘ were large loans to ‘big companies’. This is just one example and that this has perhaps been standard practice by all governments requires no guesswork. Explains why while Jaitley finds OROP approved by two Parliaments “unreasonable” he is obviously shielding Chidambaram of such serious fraud. Now with that sort of money from just one avenue perhaps Jaitley could fund the pension of the PLA as well giving them six monthly revisions.
One wonders what other misleading statements are to come after: annual revision of pensions not possible; Jawans getting lesser pension than officers; other services will start demanding OROP and the like.
The presstitutes will be recruited to whip up public sentiments on falsified information – the whole game being to confuse and politicize the issue. The social media is already agog with numerous jargon and debate. All this despite the 2011 Koshiyari Committee lambasting the wrong done to military veterans, bureaucratic apathy, pointing out why armed forces cannot be clubbed with other government employees and need to have separate pay commission for armed forces. Jaitley’s demand that pensions be revised every 5 years will delay the announcement of OROP by couple of months. Not that he does not know that a large number of veterans are very old and may not be alive by the time OROP gets announced or kick the bucket every 5-year window. But this would be routine baniagiri when extreme action of baton assault on veterans was resorted to, of which he may have been the lead proponent. As it is the police action on legally and peacefully protesting veterans at Jantar Mantar and the stupid afterthought of sending a scapegoat police officer to apologize has made the Modi government the laughing stock of the world.
The public needs to know that the veterans are simply demanding what is their due: OROP as defined by the 2011 Koshyari Committee and for grant of OROP wef 01 Apr 2014, as committed by the UPA Govt on the floor of the house (Lok Sabha) on 17 Feb 2014 and by the present NDA Govt.
What the Koshiyari Committee said and stands approved by the government can be summarized as under:
  • OROP) implies that uniform pension be paid to the Armed Forces Personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service, irrespective of their date of retirement; and, any future enhancement in the rates of pension to be automatically passed on to the past pensioners.
  • In armed forces, equality in service has two components, namely, rank and length of service. The importance of rank is inherent in armed forces as it has been granted by the President of India and signifies command, control and responsibility in consonance with ethos of service. These ranks are even allowed to be retained by the individual concerned after his/her retirement.
  • OROP was in vogue till 1973 when the 3rd CPC took an ex-parte decision against the OROP. If this formula was working satisfactorily for more than 26 years after the country’s Independence what was the harm in continuing this formula? The same procedure could very well be followed even though this demand is accepted by the Government.
  • As for the 3rd CPC, nothing was brought before the Committee which could explain or justify the circumstances in which the Defence personnel were applied the same criteria as applicable to the country’s civilian work force under the Central Government for the purpose of determining their pay, allowances, pension, family pension, etc. It is quite obvious that the terms and conditions of service, more particularly their span of service, i.e., the age at which they enter service and the age at which they become due to retire, vary drastically from the civilian work force. There is no doubt that the span of service of the armed forces is much-much less as compared to the civilians. The defence personnel in the PBOR category retire when they are around 35-40 years of age. Even the officers retire when they are around 55 years of age. That is the time when they have lot of family and social responsibility to discharge for which they need a sound financial support. This is certainly not the case with the civilian work force where the age of retirement is 60 uniformly. Further, under the rules governing pension/ family pension of the civilians, the longer a person serves, the more pay he gets and consequently he becomes entitled for higher pension / family pension. This being so, our Defence personnel are bound to remain at a disadvantageous position since the period for which they serve is definitely much less. On top of this, the fact that they retire at a younger age aggravates their hardship.
  • The MoD (Dept. of Ex-Servicemen Welfare) and Finance (Dept. of Expenditure) in their submissions have attempted to draw a rosy picture but while the Ex-Servicemen served the nation with utmost devotion and selflessness, their demands are consistently being ignored, not by the heads of Armed Forces, but by the Bureaucrats. It’s a typical example of Bureaucratic apathy.
  • To continue this apathy, the Ministries apprised the Committee that if OROP is to be implemented for the armed forces personnel, similar demands may be raised from the civilian Government employees. To this argument, the Committee finds that it is a baseless apprehension of the Government as soldiering is a different profession and they retire by rank while civilian Government employee retired by age.
  • The terms and conditions of armed forces are tougher and harsher than the civilian Government employee. There are restrictions of fundamental rights to the armed forces. Risk to life of a soldier is always higher as they work under severe strain and sense of insecurity with undefined and unlimited working hours. Transfers and dislocation alongwith bleak career prospects are other disadvantages attached with the Armed Forces. Their family life is also non-comparable with that of civilian Government employee.
  • The Armed Forces are also subjected to Court Martial system for the sake of military discipline. In view of aforesaid uniqueness of Armed Forces it cannot be equated with a civilian Government employee.
  • The Committee is distressed to note that the Defence personnel of our country have returned their service medals to the President of India in view of the Governments’ apathetic attitude towards their demand of grant of OROP.
  • The Koshiyari Committee strongly recommended that government should implement OROP in the Defence forces across the board at the earliest; and, further that for future, the pay, allowances, pension, family pension, etc. in respect of the Defence personnel should be determined by a separate Pay Commission so that their peculiar terms and conditions of service, the nature of duties they are required to perform, etc., which are quite different from the civilian work force, are duly taken into account while taking decision on the same.It may be noted that Koshiyari Committee submitted its recommendations in December 2011. Its recommendation included a “separate pay commission” for armed forces – not combined with the Pay Commission meant for other government employees. In the Ex-Servicemen rally at Rewari in 2013, Mr Modi, then Prime Ministerial candidate of BJP had said that if the BJP had come to power in 2004, OROP would have been implemented straightaway. Well 15 months have gone since NDA II came to power. Jaitley is talking of “unreasonable concessions” despite the wrong done to military veterans for past 42 years by both Congress and BJP governments since 1973. It remains to be seen whether Prime Minister Modi will let Jaitley continue with his antics, try another police action at Jantar Mantar or go by what the apex court recently said “show respect to soldiers” and get down taking the decision to implement OROP as defined by the Koshoyari Committee without further loss of time. With the 7th CPC already established, Prime Minister Modi also needs to appoint a separate Pay Commission for Armed Forces as recommended by the Koshiyari Committee.

Prakash Katoch is third generation army officer hailing from Himachal Pradesh. He is former Lieutenant General from Special Forces and post retirement has published over 530 articles on international affairs, geopolitics, military, security, technical and topical issues besides authoring two books. He is active in seminars at both national and international levels.

(Source- HP Hillpost)


Relay Hunger Strike
Today, on the 79thday of the agitation, 28 Ex-servicemen and three Veer Narees sat on Relay Hunger Strike at Jantar Mantar. Ex-servicemen from various states continue to participate in the Relay Hunger Strike(RHS).

In addition RHS entered the 75th day at Ambala and 79th day at Pathankot.

Indefinite Fast
Col Pushpender Singh(Grenadiers) and Hav Major Singh (Sikh Light Infantry) have entered the 17th day of their indefinite fast while Hav Ashok Kumar Chauhan(Corps of Signals) entered the 15th  day.

Col Pushpinder Singh though hospitalized is still observing his fast. His condition is not good as he is getting blackouts and his BP is also more than normal.
Hav Major Singh is feeling weak as he has entered in 17 day of fast unto death. His HB is down to 9, he has developed ketones in his urine. He has lost more than 10 Kg of wt. Doctor has advised immediate hospitalization for Hav Major Singh but he has refused to go to hospital and even refused to take medicine.

Now four veterans are on hunger strike in the hospital and eight at Jantar Mantar which include father of a martyr.

Hav R.N Yadav was evacuated to the hospital.

Media Center
Media Centre wishes to thank all the media reporters for their continued whole hearted support.

Events of the day

Brig Narinder Singh Sandhu, MVC
Brig Narinder Singh Sandhu (Mahavir Chakra) visited Jantar Mantar to express solidarity and full support to the ongoing agitation. 
Veterans of 67 Technical Graduates course also visited and made financial contribution for the cause.

Kisan Sabha
Representatives of Kisan Sabha visited Jantar Mantar to express solidarity and total support for the agitation.

Soldiers Families
Children and families of veterans continued to visit the venue in great numbers to support the movement.

Breakfast and Lunch
Mr Shishir Sharma and Ekta Sharma sponsored the breakfast and Lungar is being provided by Gurudwara Bangla Sahib continuously.
The management is overwhelmingly thankful for their support.

Gp Capt VK Gandhi  
1st Sep 2015

Dear Friends

The following letter has been sent to the PM on 29 Aug 2015. 


Lt Col Inderjit Singh


M 35 Palika Bhawan
RK Puram Sector 13
New Delhi 110066
Tel : 011- 261 12140
Fax : 24106144   Mob : 09811007629
29 Aug 2015

Respected Narendra Modi Bhai Saheb

             We appreciate your gesture in directing your Principal Secretary to open up dialogue with us and find a way to end our agitation. Please be aware that we are not here to embarrass you. How can we even think of doing that to a person for whom we worked day and night to bring him to power? We are at Jantar Mantar because we are anguished with the way we have been treated Narendra Bhai Saheb.

Police Action
2.         With what the Bureaucrats have done to make you believe that OROP is unimplementable we did not expect you to announce its implementation on Independence Day. We did however expect you to say a word or two of sympathy for what Police did to evict us from Jantar Mantar on 14 August. Even that little gesture was not shown. Your advisors would be able to reduce you to this state where you would become completely insensitive to the feelings of the Veterans is the last thing we expected from you.

Implementability of OROP
3.         Now talking about difficulties in implementing OROP. Has any of your advisors told you that OROP has been implemented twice in the past? Yes it was sanctioned and then implemented without any difficulty, These instances are narrated in the succeeding paragraphs.

4.          High Level Empowered Committee(HLEC) 1990. The HLEC was appointed to improve the pensions of pre 1986 pensions of Veterans. Though they were mandated to only improve the pensions of Veterans, seeing the sensitivity of the matter the Committee was seriously inclined to give OROP.

5.          This Committee however settled for One Time Increase (OTI) which was slightly less than OROP. A formula was worked out by which a Veteran got Rs 10.00 less from OROP for 15 year service. For each additional years service he got additional Rs 02.00 less. This meant a Veteran would get from Rs 10.00 to Rs 44.00 less than what he would get as OROP for service of 15 to 32 years. This was worked and disbursed in short time to the satisfaction of Veterans. The implementation for OROP does not involve any complicated calculations it is therefore much more simpler.

6.           Group Of Ministers 2005. Based on the recommendations of the Defence Parliamentary Standing Committee headed by Mr Madan Lal Khurana, a Group of Ministers (GOM) was appointed to examine OROP demand in 2005. This GOM was headed by Mr Pranab Mukherji in his capacity as Defence Minister.(Now President of India) It gave full parity on 25 Jan 2006 with Fifth CPC rates which in other words is OROP. This was also implemented with ease and swiftly to our entire satisfaction.

Civilians Will Demand
7.         This problem of civilians demanding came up in both the above cases. They were told by the leadership that Armed Forces are being given OROP because of their special conditions of service and compensation for early retirement at the age of 35 to 40 years, therefore it could not be given to them. They as true Patriots accepted this and backed out.

Legal Recourse by Civilians
8.         An argument that Civilians will go to the Court and get this for themselves. If they get it the financial effect will be disastrous for the economy. The fact is that civilians know that they can not get it from any court unless they accept to adopt the terms and conditions of Service of Armed Forces.They are therefore doing every thing within their means to deny us OROP.

Money Not Available
9.         We are told that no money to give OROP. After what has been spared for various schemes, we do not accept that there is no money to give OROP. We are aware that there is about Rs 40,000.00 crores lying uncommitted in the Budget. In addition got a bonanza of Rs 70,000.00 crores by increasing VAT by 2%. With the prices of crude oil falling another boost is round the corner. With all this if there is money for OROP, it is sad for the Nation,

Chiefs Appeal
10.       Perturbed by the happenings of the past few day, four retired Chiefs have made an earnest appeal to The President, our Commander in Chief, to intervene. Another ten Chiefs have directly appealed to you to award OROP as soon as possible as this was seriously affecting officer man relationship.

11.        We also appeal to you to grant OROP soon so that the lives of three Veterans sitting on indefinite fast can be saved. Many more are ready to replace them if they fall. The Draft Govt Letter ( DGL) had been prepared and given to the MOD by the Service HQrs. The MOD has prepared the case based on this DGL. It can be issued without any delay. If any more work is required this can also be done by us to expedite matters

12.       What Veterans are seeking has been promised by you and approved by two Parliaments. If after all that they are denied this it will be the darkest day of our Nation.

13,        We have put across our submissions to give you a true picture about some of misleading statements which the bureaucrats normally make to scare the leadershié into toeing their line for denying OROP. They may have given some more. If these could be given to us we can put across the truth about those also and help you to fulfil your promise.

             With warmest regards and best wishes

Yours Sincerely 

Lt Col Inderjit Singh

Lt Gen Balbir Singh Yadav                                                             Maj  Gen Satbir Singh
Advisor                                                                                        Advisor
UFESM                                                                                        UFESM










CGDA has already issued a letter to PCDA (Pensions), Allahabad to implement the orders on the subject. Please see CGDA letter dated 27 Aug 2015 attached.

Where is the delay now? Is PCDA still waiting for a letter from DESW, a totally non functional and non-cooperative agency?

Col K MohandasV                     ==================================================================

Col Mohan Kunnath has a very valid point based on the CGDAs orders dated 27 Aug 2015 to PCDA(pensions)as well all his under command (The letter is not addressed to three chiefs !!!). This order clearly mentions payment to all pensioners (which also should automatically include Faujis). 

The order can be accessed at CGDA website

My observations/Questions :-

1. This letter is unsigned ? Yet , it could be down loaded  from the CGDA website.(I have also searched the DESW website ,for such orders and it is not uploaded uptill office-close 01Sep 2015.)

2. PCDA(Pensions)issued circular C-144 dated 14 Aug 2015 for payment of such an arrear to civilian pensioners (INCLUDING DEFENCE ACCTS PENSIONERS). 

(A) PCDA(PENSIONS) do not have authority to issue such a circular for payment to civilians  before getting written order from either DESW or CGDA. Compare the date of the circular C-144 d/d 14 Aug 15 and the implimentation order of CGDA which is dated 27 Aug 15. 

How can the PCDA look after the interests of Civilian pensioners without proper order  ? ANY WAY IT IS A SIDE LINED ISSUE.

3. Our main issue is our own arrears. The normal process is the DOPPW issued their order on 30 Jul 2015. Thereafter,the DESW of MOD is supposef to issue further orders for defence pension payments to all the 3 chiefs and CGDAs. Based on this DESW orders, the PCDA (Pension) issue circular to all concerned. 


Veterans, who have contacts in PCDA(pensions), Allhabad may contact them and find out the further progress on CGDA letter sited above.

Also few veterans must flood the PCDA(pensions) allahabd with emails,asking them what action they have taken on the ibid letter of CGDA dated 27/08/2015? 

And when the circular getting issued for payment of fauji pensions. Also ask them for payment of interest for faujis from date of civilian circular C-144 (14/08/2015) till date of issue of fauji circular .

Thanks and Regards
Latif Vadakkayil.

(Source- Via - Gp e-mail)

Why housewives back One Rank One Pension

So, overheard a dark and disturbing joke from a veteran today. Pakistani soldiers on the border had unfurled a banner on their bunker saying “Jo ham se takraega, Jantar Mantar pe dande khaega” (Whoever clashes with us will get beaten up at Jantar Mantar). It shocked me out of my wits – it’s certainly not substantiated by anyone that I know and probably not true but black humour and rumour have their own currency as a barometer of what’s uppermost in the minds of any society or group and what it chooses to believe.
With opinions hardening at what veterans call their ”Sainik Parliament” in Jantar Mantar, the finance minister has cast the dye, likening his job to that of a “housewife” who “has to measure every rupee that the house spends so we don’t overspend and borrow.” It has been rejected by the veteran leadership because what is at stake is the very definition of OROP itself.
From the veterans’ corner, this position is seen to be nothing less than bureaucratic capture. As former navy chief Admiral Sushil Kumar has argued in the Times of India today, it’s a sign of another constituency, the civilian bureaucracy, determined to retain its own “OROP” – something he called an attempt to “Obdurately Retain Our Precedence”.
Ex-soldiers are simply unwilling to buy the fiscal prudence argument because they already had what they define as OROP till 1973 when their pensions were reduced by 25%. They argue that their definition of OROP was endorsed by the Rajya Sabha Committee on Petitions, headed by BJP MP Bhagat Singh Koshiyari, in its 142nd report on 19 December 2011.
The Supreme Court too on 9 September 2009, they argue, was supportive of this definition, saying that “no defence personnel senior in rank can get lesser pension than his junior irrespective of the date of retirement” and that “similarly placed officers of the same rank are to be given same pension irrespective of the date of retirement.”
Does this risk tying up the government in years of spiralling costs and do protesting soldiers really not understand the fiscal implications? The finance minister has articulated the government’s view but opinions are divided. In the past week, the Times of India has received, two very similar responses, one from the defence analyst Brig (retd.) Mahalingam, and the other from Col. Anil Kaul, disabled war hero and Vir Chakra awardee from the IPF operations in Sri Lanka, now media advisor to United Federation of Ex-Servicemen Association (UFSEM).
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Both agree that the current costs for OROP being talked about are Rs. 8295 crore as one-time payment, applicable for financial year 2013-14, to be implemented from April 2014. The annual increases thereafter, they argue, do not translate into an unending spiral of escalating costs because the way the pensions are calculated under specific pension bands (to account for those who have served in same rank for more years than others in same rank). Once you reach the upper end of your pension band, the hikes stop.
Both broadly argue that the current Army Headquarters calculation is that extra hike of increments will translate into an extra 0.8% of the defence pension budget of Rs. 54,500 crore per year in Year 1, then decline to 0.62% in year 2, 0.32% in year 3, 0.21% in year 4 and 0% in year 5 – in their view, this will be decreasing every year till it reaches 0% as above. What the new Pay Commission awards later this year is of course separate.
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So what do housewives have to do with it? The finance minister is right that balance sheets must be matched but housewives (or house-husbands) also make choices – on what is essential expenditure (necessary to protect the household) and what is frivolous expenditure (that can be cut).
Like me, most Indians don’t understand the financial intricacies of this last mile of the OROP battle but almost all, including housewives and house-husbands, will agree that the nation must be ready pay a cost for its security and find a way out. Soldiers are going by what was promised, the endless haggling with them cannot be good for anyone.
(Source- TOI)
CGDA has already issued a letter to PCDA (Pensions), Allahabad to implement the orders on the subject. Please see CGDA letter dated 27 Aug 2015 attached.

Where is the delay now? Is PCDA still waiting for a letter from DESW, a totally non functional and non-cooperative agency?

Col K Mohandas
"ASHIANA", Post Office Junction
Chittur (Palakkad) - 678 101 Kerala
Phone: +91 4923 222694  Mobile: +91 - 9447621171
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